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Munich Malt Substitute

Postby bewm » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:19 am

I'm hoping that my LHBS will have Munich Malt but, if they don't, does anybody have a substitute they could recommend? The recipe is Jamil's Export 80:

8.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.038 3
0.50 lbs. Munich Malt Germany 1.037 8
0.50 lbs. Honey Malt Canada 1.030 18
1.00 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40
0.38 lbs. Crystal 120L America 1.033 120
0.19 lbs. Chocolate Malt - Light Great Britain 1.034 200

I have everything on hand except the Munich.

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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby majorvices » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:24 am

You could go with Vienna. It is sort of a "light" Munich. Outside of that there really isn't any subbing Munich. Possibly some melanoidin malt in a very small proportion - it is like a very intense Munich.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby bewm » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:27 am

Don't have that either. Never used Munich which is why I'm asking, but thanks for the Vienna suggestion: I know my LHBS has that. I'm hoping this is all moot.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby fossilsrocks » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:30 am

My best shot at a sub would be:

3 oz of melanoidin + 5 oz of two row = 8 oz of Munich malt

Edit: just saw your above post. Vienna is like munich, but not as intense. You might try 1 lb of Vienna while removing .5 lb from the pale malt.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby majorvices » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:35 am

They should have Munich if they are any kind of HBS at all. Munich is a very important basemalt for German brewing. How can you make a Bock or a Dunkel without Munich??? You can't!
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby BrewBum » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:39 am

yeah, seems odd to not have Munich, heck even I carry Munich. I would be less likely to have Vienna in stock as I don't go through near as much. I am almost to the point where I need to have a 50lb bag of it in stock for Speed, as much as he brews. :lol:
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby bewm » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:45 am

Up until a few months ago they barley carried any grains at all, it's more of a wine shop than a homebrew shop. They have beefed up their stock quite a bit since then but, being a pessimist, I'm wanted to go there with a sub or two that I could pick up in case they don't have it.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby Mr. Wonderful » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:04 pm

bewm wrote: barley carried any grains at all


Well stated and i am sure , Pun intended :lol:
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby bewm » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:26 am

Another question: they had both German Light Munich (6.5 SRM) and German Dark Munich (9-11.5 SRM), both by Weyermann sold in 1lb bags. They were cheap so I bought both, but which one do you guys think would be best in the recipe I posted above?

JZ's recipe says the Munich should be 8 SRM so my guess would be the Dark, but is there really an incorrect answer here? It would just impact color, right? If so I may use the lighter one since I'm already darker than I'd like to be.

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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby BrewBum » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:46 am

I would say the light one too.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby bewm » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:09 am

BrewBum wrote:I would say the light one too.

Thanks for the confirmation.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby speed » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:29 pm

BrewBum wrote:yeah, seems odd to not have Munich, heck even I carry Munich. I would be less likely to have Vienna in stock as I don't go through near as much. I am almost to the point where I need to have a 50lb bag of it in stock for Speed, as much as he brews. :lol:

hey, i don't brew THAT much do i? yea, you're probably right. i found out my water profile is just right for lagers and lighter beers. i've made 25 gal of lagers so far this year out of 35 total.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby BrewBum » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:12 am

speed wrote:
BrewBum wrote:yeah, seems odd to not have Munich, heck even I carry Munich. I would be less likely to have Vienna in stock as I don't go through near as much. I am almost to the point where I need to have a 50lb bag of it in stock for Speed, as much as he brews. :lol:

hey, i don't brew THAT much do i? yea, you're probably right. i found out my water profile is just right for lagers and lighter beers. i've made 25 gal of lagers so far this year out of 35 total.


That doesn't surprise me actually. It is amazing that just down the road an hour how much harder our water is. I need to get mine tested. Are you going to modify your water on your stouts and IPAs now? I bet that has been the issue with your IPAs all along.
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby speed » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:46 am

thats what i plan on doing, i think you are right cause the ipa's never were very good. i'll have to show you our water report at the next meeting, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE'
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Re: Munich Malt Substitute

Postby BrewBum » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:16 am

Clean living up in the sandhills. :D
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