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Double Bastard recipe...

Postby MmmmBeer » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:03 am

...anyone have a good one? Plan on making this my next brew when I get home from deployment.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby poobah58 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:42 am

This one's killer if I do say so myself...

IMPERIAL BASTARD IPA

Yeast: S-05
Batch Size (Gallons): 5.5
Original Gravity: 1.095
Final Gravity: 1.019
IBU: 111.2
Boiling Time: 90 Minutes
Color: 25.2
Primary Fermentation: 14 days @66F
Secondary Fermentation: 14 days @66F
Additional Fermentation: Age 60 Days

17 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 87.18 %
1 lbs Special B Malt (147.0 SRM) 5.13 %
0.5 lbs Caraaroma (130.0 SRM) 2.56 %
0.5 lbs Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) 2.56 %
0.5 lbs Demerara sugar (2.0 SRM) 2.56 %
0.50 oz Chinook [11.40 %] (90 min) (Mash Hop) 4.1 IBU
0.50 oz Galena [14.20 %] (90 min) (FWH) 21.1 IBU
1.00 oz Galena [14.20 %] (60 min) 46.8 IBU
1.00 oz Nugget [14.10 %] (20 min) 15.6 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [12.40 %] (20 min) 13.8 IBU
1.00 oz Nugget [14.10 %] (2 min) 7.7 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [12.40 %] (2 min) 6.8 IBU
1.20 oz Centennial [9.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
0.40 oz Nugget [14.10 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
0.40 oz Chinook [12.40 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
1.00 tsp Wyeast Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10.0 min)
2 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05)
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby MmmmBeer » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:54 am

Do you have a partial mash option for that recipe. I know, I know I need to start doing all grain, its on my to-do list, but for the time being I need to do partial mashes. How close is that recipe to the Double Bastard? Thanks for the help.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby poobah58 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:40 am

The color is very close. Mine is a bit more bitter and hoppy. It wasn't meant to be an exact clone, just similar. I like mine much better...
Beersmith converts it to this:

10 lbs Light Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 63.61 %
3 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 22.26 %
12.0 oz Special B Malt (147.0 SRM) Grain 4.77 %
8.0 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 3.18 %
8.0 oz Caraaroma (130.0 SRM) Grain 3.18 %
8.0 oz Demerara sugar (2.0 SRM) 3.18 %
1.00 tsp Wyeast Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10.0 min)
0.50 oz Chinook [11.40 %] (90 min) (Mash Hop) 4.1 IBU
0.50 oz Galena [14.20 %] (90 min) (FWH) 21.1 IBU
1.00 oz Galena [14.20 %] (60 min) 46.8 IBU
1.00 oz Nugget [14.10 %] (20 min) 15.6 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [12.40 %] (20 min) 13.8 IBU
1.00 oz Nugget [14.10 %] (2 min) 7.7 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [12.40 %] (2 min) 6.8 IBU
1.20 oz Centennial [9.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
0.40 oz Nugget [14.10 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
0.40 oz Chinook [12.40 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)
2 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05)

Original Gravity: 1.094 SG
Final Gravity: 1.020 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.71 %
Est Color: 21.4 SRM

Mash @150F/60 min
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby MmmmBeer » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:14 am

Thats going to be an expensive brew. How do you convert LME to base malts? Say I wanted to knock the LME in half? I have done a morebeer partial mash before. So I would like the grain bill to be about five pounds total or so. Help is much appreciated, thanks.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby pclemon » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:53 am

MmmmBeer wrote:Thats going to be an expensive brew. How do you convert LME to base malts? Say I wanted to knock the LME in half? I have done a morebeer partial mash before. So I would like the grain bill to be about five pounds total or so. Help is much appreciated, thanks.


What efficiency do you get when you partial mash? Using the point per gallon method -

Pale Male ~37PPG, 70% efficiency ~26PPM
LME ~37PPG

If you wanted to mash 5# of pale malt you would reduce the LME by 3.5 pounds. (assuming 70% eff).
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby pclemon » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:58 am

MmmmBeer wrote:Thats going to be an expensive brew. How do you convert LME to base malts? Say I wanted to knock the LME in half? I have done a morebeer partial mash before. So I would like the grain bill to be about five pounds total or so. Help is much appreciated, thanks.



And yeah - it's expensive to brew but considering a 22oz. of it is $7 (price I found on-line) and a 5 gallon batch is 29 22oz'ers, the street value of that beer is $200.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby poobah58 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:58 pm

I revised the partial mash. Didn't realize that you could mash. I have never done a partial mash but I used a brewhouse eff of 70%
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby MmmmBeer » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:13 am

Thanks man! That looks good, so I should bottle after 28 days of fermentation and let it age for 60 days? Not sure I can be that patient but I will try. I am really looking forward to making this. Thanks again.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby poobah58 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:45 am

MmmmBeer wrote:Thanks man! That looks good, so I should bottle after 28 days of fermentation and let it age for 60 days? Not sure I can be that patient but I will try. I am really looking forward to making this. Thanks again.

I would definitely do the 28 day fermentation. The aging is optional... Can be 2 weeks if desired.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby poobah58 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:54 pm

YW.. I need to do this one again!
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby Danny1788 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:03 pm

Do you put both packets of yeast in at once or one in the 1st ferment and one in the second ferment? sorry for the newbie question's even though i know im not ready to make a beer like this i sure want to try. Any help full hints would be great.
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby Klickitat Jim » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:30 pm

Street value! I gotta remember that!

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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby poobah58 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:56 pm

Danny1788 wrote:Do you put both packets of yeast in at once or one in the 1st ferment and one in the second ferment? sorry for the newbie question's even though i know im not ready to make a beer like this i sure want to try. Any help full hints would be great.

Put them both in at the same time...
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Re: Double Bastard recipe...

Postby Danny1788 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:50 pm

Poobah58 how do you ferment in the 1st, 2nd and then condition time?
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