I ferment milk with Kefir grains, it taste like a good buttermilk, but more fizzy. Pima is like kefir but without the grains. I also use creme de franchase. It ferments heavy cream which can be used for cooking or a rich drink. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making
Here is a web link to help explain what it is about. I have my group but it is not as active as the first group. It is like when I first learned about brewing. A brand new great thing. That is the way it is with these cultures. My group link is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Viili_Cas ... ogurt_CSY/
Another good group is kombuch which is fermented tea. The link is
If you join these groups you can usually get starts and learn how to make these wonderful cultures.
I still like beer the best, There is nothing better than making a good batch of beer. I like the whole process, especially when you drink a perfect beer that you have made. I hope everyone will check out these links, It makes good reading anyway.. Sincerely Mike