Jar of Yeast for Pliny the Elder?

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Jar of Yeast for Pliny the Elder?

Post by ultravista » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:23 am

I am brewing MoreBeer's Pliny the Elder all-grain kit next week. A local brewer graciously provided me with approximately 20 ounces of fresh WLP001.

A White Labs vial is 35ml or approximately 1.2 ounces of yeast.

How much of this jar would you use for Pliny with an OG of 1.07x?

The entire jar would be a massive over-pitch. I would like to save some for another batch later on down the road.

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Post by pclemon » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:50 am

http://www.mrmalty.com/pitching.php

Will get you in the ballpark of what's ideal.
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Re: Jar of Yeast for Pliny the Elder?

Post by rplace » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:10 am

That is a big jar...or just a big picture. :wink:

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Post by pclemon » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:21 am

rplace wrote:That is a big jar...or just a big picture. :wink:
The picture was taken from the rear-view mirror so it's closer than it appears.
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Post by rplace » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:36 pm

^^ :lol:

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Post by tookalisten » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:26 pm

I typically pitch 8 oz of slurry for 5 gallons; but the MrMalty suggestion is about the best guide around.
Pliny is a big brew; so if you slip and get it all in there, that probably will be fine too. Just be sure your temps are where you want them; because it will take off quick!
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Re: Jar of Yeast for Pliny the Elder?

Post by ultravista » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:44 pm

tookalisten - what temperature/fermentation schedule do you suggest for Pliny?

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Post by tookalisten » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:46 pm

ultravista wrote:tookalisten - what temperature/fermentation schedule do you suggest for Pliny?
I can go look at my notes for specifics; but for all my ales, I set my fermentation chamber controller at 60F; which puts fermentation temp closer to 65F. Depending on time of year (I use an IC to cool); I cool down into the 70s and then place the fermentor in my temp controlled freezer and then go back later that eve when the wort temp has equilibrated and pitch my yeast when the wort is in the low 60s. Otherwise, with a big yeast slurry, it will take off and the temps will run up on you quickly.

Most of my ales - I let go for 2 weeks before I even check a gravity. For a beer as big as Pliny, I often Primary up to 3 weeks before pushing to kegs.
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Post by ultravista » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:06 am

You typically use 8 ounces of yeast slurry? How big of a starter do you make to create 8 ounces of usable yeast?

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Post by NonHopHead » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:22 pm

For what its worth, I did a Pliny this summer and pitched a 2 L starter of WLP001 (I didn't measure the slurry volume). This took two weeks to ferment down from 1.073 to 1.015 at 70 F before racking to secondary.

That was one delicious beer.

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Re: Jar of Yeast for Pliny the Elder?

Post by ultravista » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:47 pm

Did you mash hop or use the whole leaf elsewhere?

In an email conversation with Vinnie, he told me RR does not mash hop Pliny. He suggested using the hops in the boil or dry hop.

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Post by tookalisten » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:57 pm

ultravista wrote:You typically use 8 ounces of yeast slurry? How big of a starter do you make to create 8 ounces of usable yeast?
I save slurry from a previous fermented batch of 5 or 10 gallons.
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Re: Jar of Yeast for Pliny the Elder?

Post by ultravista » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:17 am

I may just use half of it and save the rest.


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