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Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by watch68 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:00 pm

I am making a fruit IPA be means of pure canned fruit juice. I'm thinking of adding it to the primary because it will restart fermentation. find song lyrics This way, all of the yeast and trub from this fermentation will sink to the bottom with all of the other trub. watch action movie online I would be adding it after primary fermentation is complete.

Then I plan to rack to secondary and dry hop. Then cold crash + gelatin.

Is this good idea? My only concern would be juice flavor getting caught in the trub in the primary.
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Re: Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by CA_Mouse » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:44 pm

Depending on how much juice you are adding, the re-fermentation could strip a lot of the flavor out along with the sugars. I, personally, would dry hop, then dose a sample to get an idea of how much you want to have in the end product. I would then use the juice as the priming sugar for carbonating it, no matter if you are bottling or kegging. If kegging just let it sit like you would bottles and check it in a week to see where it is at.
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Re: Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by dmtaylor » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:16 am

Fruit juice will turn the beer sour. You can do this, but be aware of this fact. This is why citrus peels and flavor extracts often work even better than the real juice. That said, I make an apple ale that is pretty killer. I offset the tartness with some lactose. You might want to consider doing the same.
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Re: Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by CA_Mouse » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:00 am

dmtaylor wrote:Fruit juice will turn the beer sour. You can do this, but be aware of this fact. This is why citrus peels and flavor extracts often work even better than the real juice. That said, I make an apple ale that is pretty killer. I offset the tartness with some lactose. You might want to consider doing the same.
Where did you get this info? I've been doing an orange wheat for a few years that is *never* sour. If you are getting sour beer, it isn't because of fruit juice.
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Re: Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by KTbrew » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:31 pm

Where did you get this info? I've been doing an orange wheat for a few years that is *never* sour. If you are getting sour beer, it isn't because of fruit juice.[/quote]

Perhaps this is from the acidity of the fruit. I once did a raspberry ale which a lot of people found to be tart once the fruit had fermented out. It was ok with me but I like tart flavors. Some people are more sensitive than others.

That being said I've done a few beers with fruit in the primary and late kettle additions. A friend of mine, who owns a brewery, taught me that you need to think of it like a chef. Different fruits in different beers work best added at different points. They make a peach wheat with peach puree in the boil which is amazing.

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Re: Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by dmtaylor » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:49 pm

A beer with orange juice in it is tart. I don't even need to taste it to know that.
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Re: Fruit Juice in the Primary?

Post by CA_Mouse » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:05 am

dmtaylor wrote:A beer with orange juice in it is tart. I don't even need to taste it to know that.
Tart and Sour are two different things. I will agree that orange juice (especially not sweetened) can be tart, but sour would mean that either the fruit was not ripe when juiced or a possible infection somewhere in the process.
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