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Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby Liquid Bread » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:27 am

Last week my wife and I got back from our trip to Italy and Greece. While in Greece, we had a chance to enjoy some excellent Greek/Turkish/Arabic coffee. So much so that I want to make it at home. I purchased a special pot (briki in Greek), but I seem to be having trouble grinding the coffee fine enough. It's basically got to be the consistency of powdered sugar. The burr grinder doesn't have a fine enough setting, and the blade grinder is too inconsistent.

Does anyone have any ideas for making coffee powder at home? I could just buy pre-ground coffee, but then the freshness is lost.
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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby MikeyC » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:39 pm

How about a mortar and pistil? I don't know how much you need and this would probably take some time to get enough for a couple of cups... just thinking out loud here. Cheers~
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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby MDixon » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:04 am

My grinder has a turkish setting, but my grinder is a beast. It is a Grindmaster 875 and looks like this (not my picture)
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/15965371/aview/gf.jpg

I've seen turkish grinders that look like peppermills. http://www.turkish-coffee.org/turkish_c ... rinder.htm
http://coffeegeek.com/guides/turkishcoffee

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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby gfoster » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:32 am

Mike, I know my Rocky will grind it fine enough to choke my Silvia completely, and it still has tons of more room to go before the burrs touch. I normally grind at 9 above true zero on my rocky and my Silvia espresso machine will choke completely at 7 above TZ on most beans. I'm pretty sure I could get it to the consistency of coffee flour if I took it all the way down to 1 or 2.

I know it's a bit of a drive, but if you want to come down to Concord and bring some beans I'll grind you up some to try. Bring the Turkish pot and we'll try it on the spot and see if it works :)

I've got some fresh roasted Sumatran Blue Batak degassing right now and I've got about 10 other kinds of beans to roast, I've got a Silvia to pull shots, a newco pourover and a french press so we could always geek out on coffee heh.

Remember, the *most* important link in the coffee chain isn't the coffee maker, it's actually the grinder.

Edit: I just realized Mike was answering Bread's post... well the invite extends all the way down to San Diego too :)

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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby Roger456 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:44 pm

What kind of grinder do you have, Gary?
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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby MDixon » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:34 pm

If it ain't a Grindmaster 875 it ain't crap... :wink:
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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby gfoster » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:43 am

MDixon wrote:If it ain't a Grindmaster 875 it ain't crap... :wink:


Does that mean if it IS a grindmaster 875 it IS crap? :roll: :D :shock: :mrgreen:

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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby gfoster » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:46 am

Roger456 wrote:What kind of grinder do you have, Gary?


I have a stainless steel Rancilio Rocky with the doser. I go back and forth on whether I like the doser or not. It's a pain to grind a large amount for drip (I haven't removed the forks yet which will make it tons easier) but I also don't get clumps and crap in my portafilter when I grind for espresso because the doser knocks all the clumps out.

The doser is less messy, the doserless is easier if you're grinding lots of coffee for other purposes. I generally grind on demand, I only grind my beans just before I brew them and I only grind however much I need at that instant.

I think once I remove the forks from the bottom of my doser I won't have any more complaints. The rocky is a monster. An expensive monster, heh. It's a hell of a grinder.

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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby Roger456 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:19 pm

:) Wow. I loves me some coffee, but that is a chunk of change...

I make strictly drip at home using either individual cones or a chemex for 2 cups.
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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby gfoster » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:15 pm

I went ahead and pulled the forks off and it made a world of difference. I'm totally happy with it now :)

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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby JP » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:03 pm

At Starbucks, anytime we had to grind someones coffee for Turkish, we have to feild strip the machine and clean the burrs each and every time. Take that information as you see fit. Because I have no idea if it will help.
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Re: Greek Coffee - Super Fine Grind Needed

Postby Liquid Bread » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:33 pm

Mostly because I'm a cheap bastard, I went ahead and purchased an inexpensive (but good quality) blade style coffee grinder. If I let it run long enough (usually 3-4 20 second blasts) I can get a fine powder.

I also found using a very light roast is best as the resultant coffee is very concentrated.
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