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barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby KTbrew » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:11 am

Thought I’d share this. I recently fermented a 5 gallon batch of barley wine on the yeast cake of a 10 gallon batch of pale ale. It had the gravity from 1.100 to 1.022 in two days. I expected it to go fast but not that fast. Has anyone ells experienced this?
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby tookalisten » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:36 pm

Wow, that was a quick move. Lots of yeast though. I often now pitch larger brews on a yeast cake; but I will pour the slurry from a 5 gallon batch and use about half of it split between 2 batches.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby turbo_ale » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:17 pm

That is extremely quick. Did you experienced overflow through a blowoff tube, were you temp controlled?

My 1.100 Belgian Dark Strong gassed off for at least seven days and over flowed out the blowoff tube.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby MullerBrau » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:23 pm

Mine went from 1.135 to 1.021 on a yeast cake of US-05 from a blonde ale. I fermented it in a controlled cool environment but it went in about 4-5 days. I made 11 gallons in 2010 and still have about 20 bottles left. Denny's Old Stoner modified.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby tookalisten » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:05 am

MullerBrau wrote:Mine went from 1.135 to 1.021 on a yeast cake of US-05 from a blonde ale. I fermented it in a controlled cool environment but it went in about 4-5 days. I made 11 gallons in 2010 and still have about 20 bottles left. Denny's Old Stoner modified.


Denny's Old Stoner is my favorite barley wine recipe. I have one bomber left that I am holding onto for a while. I definitely need to brew this one again.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby KTbrew » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:07 am

turbo_ale wrote:That is extremely quick. Did you experienced overflow through a blowoff tube, were you temp controlled?

My 1.100 Belgian Dark Strong gassed off for at least seven days and over flowed out the blowoff tube.

No overflow because it was 5 gallons in a 12 gallon container. Temp was regulated at 67.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby stusiegel » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:24 pm

I recently did a Barleywine on a yeast cake from a Pliny The Elder clone (SG was 1.068 and FG was 1.016 - so not to big DIPA).

I let the Barleywine ferment for 11 days. SG was 1.126. FG was 1.020. Fermented at 67F. I did it with a blowoff tube but the lid to my 6 1/2 gallon fermentor still popped off once.

The calculated alcohol is a whopping 13.91% :shock:
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby MullerBrau » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:58 pm

stusiegel wrote:I recently did a Barleywine on a yeast cake from a Pliny The Elder clone (SG was 1.068 and FG was 1.016 - so not to big DIPA).

I let the Barleywine ferment for 11 days. SG was 1.126. FG was 1.020. Fermented at 67F. I did it with a blowoff tube but the lid to my 6 1/2 gallon fermentor still popped off once.

The calculated alcohol is a whopping 13.91% :shock:
I know the formula (1.126-1.020)*131= abv but when I put it in EZ Brew 1.95, it says 15.9%. Makes me wonder if it is not a linear relationship when you go real big.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby stusiegel » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:19 am

I would take 15.9% over 13.91%. Sounds more impressive and much more dangerous alcohol level 8)

I used the ABV Calculator at Brewersfriend to get my calculation.

http://www.brewersfriend.com/abv-calculator/
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby KTbrew » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:41 pm

Just a BTW on this old post.

I was reviewing my notes and this one actually got down to 1.016 F.G.
I still have much of the batch in bottles and it's an awesome beer.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby stusiegel » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:48 am

I soaked 4 ozs of oak chips in Jim Beam Black for several days then thru all of it into the Barley Wine while in secondary. Left it there for 10 days I think. The oak and Jim Beam elevated the flavors of the Barley Wine into it becoming a spectacular beer. So I got a 13.91% beer with some Jim Beam and oak flavor. Freakin Awesome! :twisted:
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby KTbrew » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:05 pm

stusiegel wrote:I soaked 4 ozs of oak chips in Jim Beam Black for several days then thru all of it into the Barley Wine while in secondary. Left it there for 10 days I think. The oak and Jim Beam elevated the flavors of the Barley Wine into it becoming a spectacular beer. So I got a 13.91% beer with some Jim Beam and oak flavor. Freakin Awesome! :twisted:


Yeah, I didn't mention before but I used cognac soaked oak in this. It's subtle but good.
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Re: barley wine on the yeast cake

Postby KTbrew » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:17 pm

BTW- I'm doing tis again right now with a Burton Ale yeast cake. It's not going anywhere near as fast. Just thought I'd share.
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