WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

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WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby ultravista » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:46 pm

I happen to have WLP007 on hand and wondering how 007 would work for a Pliny the Elder clone?

With the massive load of hops (13 oz.), will there be much difference in perceivable esters if using 007 and temperature controlled instead of 001 or another Chico strain?

I am brewing the MoreBeer Pliny clone.
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby CA_Mouse » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:08 pm

I have not made a Pliny clone, but I've used WLP007 on several of my big beers in the past year, most recently on my Imperial Pumpkin. I find that it provides a very dry finish, but seems to leave a good malt backbone. I don't perceive the esters that I get using WLP004, so I believe that on your clone it should be a reasonable yeast (just finish slightly drier).
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby ultravista » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:40 pm

Given the same conditions, 007 will finish drier than 001?
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby Brewtime » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:31 pm

I would use it since Pliny is a fairly dry DIPA
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby helloworld » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:32 pm

Stone uses a proprietary yeast strain but recommends White Labs 02 or 07 for those trying to clone their beers. Given the hop bombs that they are prone to brew 07 should work alright for a Pliny clone.
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby ultravista » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:42 am

I have not yet had a Pliny, can't get it here in Las Vegas, NV.

My favorites are Lagunitas Hop Stoopid and Squatters Hop Rising.

For those of you that have had Pliny, are either of these close to Pliny?
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby Brewtime » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:31 am

if you are using the Kit that the host sell it is a very good recipe I have brewed it twice and it is a solid beer
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby ultravista » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:12 am

Brewtime wrote:if you are using the Kit that the host sell it is a very good recipe I have brewed it twice and it is a solid beer


Yes, it is the MoreBeer all grain Pliny kit.

Did you modify your recipe or process?

Vinnie @ RR told me they no longer mash hop and that the MoreBeer recipe is old (but still relevant). He suggested using the hops designated for the mash elsewhere - boil or dry hop. I am not sure which I'll do.

What was your post-boil gravity and volume? I imagine I'll need 5+ gallons post-ferment to account for pellet absorption to net 5 gallons.
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby Brewtime » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:04 am

ultravista wrote:
Brewtime wrote:if you are using the Kit that the host sell it is a very good recipe I have brewed it twice and it is a solid beer


Yes, it is the MoreBeer all grain Pliny kit.

Did you modify your recipe or process?

Vinnie @ RR told me they no longer mash hop and that the MoreBeer recipe is old (but still relevant). He suggested using the hops designated for the mash elsewhere - boil or dry hop. I am not sure which I'll do.

What was your post-boil gravity and volume? I imagine I'll need 5+ gallons post-ferment to account for pellet absorption to net 5 gallons.


I have used it as mash hops only because the whole leaf hops clogs the pumps I may put them in a hopsack this time and use it as FWH addition. I just bought a third kit when they were on sale a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: WLP007 for Pliny the Elder?

Postby ultravista » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:36 pm

I bought mine on sale too, the $10 sale.
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