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How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Mike_ » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:17 am

How many of you add Salts to your brew?
and if so is it to improve the brew or to help with PH?
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Cabin Joe » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:39 am

I use 5.2. Thought that helping pH would help brew better beer.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Mike_ » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:52 am

yes I do as well. I am wondering though Salt makes food taste better so why not beer??? :|
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Monster Mash » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:01 am

With food you add salt to adjust the flavor, with beer that isn't a good idea....

I use sulfuric acid to adjust the ph.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Brewtime » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:35 am

Monster Mash wrote:With food you add salt to adjust the flavor, with beer that isn't a good idea....

I use sulfuric acid to adjust the ph.



I use lactic acid in my sparge water to ajust Ph
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Denny » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:57 am

I use lactic acid, calcium chloride, calcium sulfate, calcium carbonate, and a couple other things as needed. I DO NOT use 5.2 any more. I did for a while but after some assessment I stopped using it. Not only did it not work at all for me, it gave my beers a strange taste.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby MuddyMikes » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:26 am

Monster Mash wrote:I use sulfuric acid to adjust the ph.

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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Conroe » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:43 am

I have calcium chloride and phosphoric acid on hand. I don't use them very often.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Cabin Joe » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:49 am

Denny wrote:I use lactic acid, calcium chloride, calcium sulfate, calcium carbonate, and a couple other things as needed. I DO NOT use 5.2 any more. I did for a while but after some assessment I stopped using it. Not only did it not work at all for me, it gave my beers a strange taste.


Denny- can you describe this? Never heard that before.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Mike_ » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:58 am

Like what Denny?? can you describe it? Cause I think I know what you are talking about.. a funny at the end of the sip taste.. a lingering small off flavor?
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby beertron » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:42 am

i use chalk, and/or gypsum, and/or epsom, and/or calcium chloride, and/or nothing to adjust my mash water and lactic acid to adjust the pH of my sparge water. i use the salts to adjust the residual alkalinity of the mash and the mineral concentrations, usually to make sure the calcium is at 50ppm and the sulfate:chloride ratio is where i want it.

edit: and/or baking soda
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Denny » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:43 am

Kind of a soapy, salty flavor. Look around here and you'll find others have had problems with it also.

Here's a quote from Martin Brungard's EXCELLENT water spreadsheet, Bru'nwater...you can download it https://sites.google.com/site/brunwater/

SPECIAL NOTE: Five Star 5.2 Stabilizer is indicated by its manufacturer to "lock in your mash and kettle water at a pH of 5.2 regardless of the starting pH of your water". Evidence by homebrewers indicates that this product does not produce a mash pH in the preferred room-temperature range of 5.3 to 5.5. That evidence shows this product does produce some pH moderation in waters with high Residual Alkalinity. But, the mash pH tends to center around 5.8 (room-temperature measurement). While 5.8 pH is acceptable, it is at the upper end of the desirable range. The evidence also shows that in waters with low Residual Alkalinity, this product shows no effect on pH. Since Five Star 5.2 Stabilizer is a compound with high sodium content, its use will elevate the sodium concentration in the brewing water. High sodium content is undesirable from a taste standpoint in beer. Proper acidification of mashing and sparging water will produce more acceptable brewing results for most brewers than the use of 5.2 Stabilizer.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby Monster Mash » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:58 pm

MuddyMikes wrote:
Monster Mash wrote:I use sulfuric acid to adjust the ph.

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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby MaltnHopsrGood » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:50 pm

I've used 5.2 on my last 3 brews and cannot detect a difference in taste. I'd like to use the spreadsheets, but it just seems too complicated. It would be great if someone would put together some kind of tutorial for it.
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Re: How many of you add Salts to your brew?

Postby tookalisten » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:54 pm

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