Cider in secondary - help

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Cider in secondary - help

Postby Tenchi_Kioto » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:45 pm

I started a 2 gallons of cider about 2 months ago. The only thing I did was aerated the cider added yeast. was in primary for a month, then moved to secondary its been there for a good month now with no problem. then I checked it last night and there was a slight white film on the top. Did this turn bad on me or is this normal??

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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby fossilsrocks » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:40 am

It is hard to say without seeing it. I would guess it is just fine. Pull a sample out & try it.
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby SMITHENHALS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:45 am

Pictures would help. Is it a film, or more like a layer of slime or skin?
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby Tenchi_Kioto » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:31 am

SMITHENHALS wrote:Pictures would help. Is it a film, or more like a layer of slime or skin?


I'll try to get a picture. Its more of a film, skin i would think to be thicker its very thin, and its not a slime. There are some bubbles at the top while the white film/skin is on top of the bubbles. I wanted to bulk ago in the carboy but im a little worried now.

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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby SMITHENHALS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:11 pm

If it is finished fermenting, taste it. Apple cider is naturally dry and kind of tart, but if it is sour, or taste like vinegar........Dumpsville.
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby SMITHENHALS » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:47 am

That my friend is a ruined batch of cider. Have a taste and post your results.
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby Tenchi_Kioto » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:56 am

Apple cider taste test results:

Look - perfectly clear with a beautiful color
smell - nice apple aroma
taste - a wonderful apple flavor with a small amount of vinegar swirling around.

Rate - 2 out of 5 stars
1 star for color and clarity
1 star for nice apple aroma

Conclusion:

Anyone know any good apple cider vinegar recipes??

cider failure #1 onto the next batch I will have a good cider late '09 early '10 :evil:

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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby SMITHENHALS » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:08 pm

I have a very nice, simple apple cider that is drinkable in two months if you would like it. It will greatly improve over time, but is very good young. You should focus on your sanitation techniques on the next batch.
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby thetooth » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:21 pm

Wow... that looked foul. I'm sorry for the loss of your cider. Try Smithenhal's "ready in 2 months" cider for now. I hear it's great.
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby alemageddon » Thu May 07, 2009 8:47 am

Smithenhals, I would like your recipe if it isn't too much trouble. I want to try making a cider in the near future and a quick and easy one sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby SMITHENHALS » Thu May 07, 2009 11:13 am

PM sent. :wink:
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Re: Cider in secondary - help

Postby Albionwood » Thu May 07, 2009 10:27 pm

Most likely you allowed some air in, possibly when you racked to secondary. Lacto, aceto, and other bacteria are all just waiting for a chance... deny them any oxygen and they can't ruin your cider. Next time either top-up so there's no headspace, or purge the carboy with CO2 before racking, or add sulfite after racking.
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